Why ARE Irish records so hard to find?

Why ARE Irish records so hard to find?

     In 1922, during the Irish Civil War, there was a huge fire in the court system there.  Many thought that the records were all lost, but similarly to our Civil War, records were kept locally then sent to the County Courts in the form of copies.  In our records, the way you can tell a copy from an original is that the copy is neatly handwritten and in alphabetical order instead of random by street.

     Following that logic, the local copies of records were most often records kept in Catholic Parishes.   

Recently, technology has transformed hope of what was once thought of as lost to possibility.

.  People are taking portable scanning machines directly to Parishes country wide and preserving these precious artifacts for their posterity.  By scanning and then indexing (somewhat like tagging a picture in facebook), remarkable finds are happening.  

     You can read more about that here at findmypast.com  Another Partner Access we have free access to is called    AMERICAN ANCESTORS       

https://familysearch.org/partner/americanancestors  

     This now holds the worlds largest Catholic database of Boston Archdiocese parish records from 1789-1900.  Usually, to belong to this organization created by the New England Historical Genealogical Society it costs upwards of 90.00/year.

Historic Catholic Reords Online

Here is an excerpt from Findmypast.com

Read on!  This is fascinating how they make it so much easier for us than our ancestors had to endure in the past when researching their ancestors.

Irish Family History: Ashes to Archives

On June 30 1922, during the Irish Civil War, the Public Records Office of Ireland, located at the historic Four Courts in Dublin, was severely damaged by fire resulting in the loss of a huge number of records.

But all is not lost! Irish family history is not only one of the most perplexing to research it also one of the most rewarding. There are so many fascinating stories to be told from the records that survive and that’s why millions continue to search for their Irish ancestors.

Click on each of the links opposite to read up on how Irish genealogy differs from other countries, the best ways of getting started on your Irish family tree and the millions of records at your fingertips for piecing together your ancestor’s story.

Get started on your Irish family history today by searching our Birth, Marriage and Death records.

Resources

• What’s different about Irish genealogyLosing so many records makes Irish family history more challenging but all is not lost.
• What was lost?Exactly what was lost in 1922? And, more importantly, what survived?
• I want to know more!Get detailed information on all of the Irish records available on findmypast
• Irish Births, Marriages & DeathsLearn about birth, marriage and death records in Ireland
• Our Irish recordsA quick guide to the Irish records on findmypast
• First steps in family historyFollow our tips and get started on your family history on findmypast.

                             New Records Added by the Galway East Family History Society

ROOTS IRELAND.IE is the place to go!  This is not a partneraccess for LDS members but at this time you can become a member for 12.00 one day deal or 255.00 per year.  

Are you looking for Irish Records?  Usually, Findmypast.com is the way to go, but here is another great source.

Where findmypast.com is a free partner access, To get partner access sites for free, go to:  www.familysearch.org/partneraccess  

Here is an excerpt from ROOTSIRELAND.IE

have added transcripts of over 32,000 records to the database of the Galway East Family History Society on our website. These include:

Non Catholic Marriages 1845-1955 - Parishes of Ardrahan, Athenry, Eyrecourt, Gort, Kilcolgan, Killinane, Kilconickney, Kinvara, Loughrea, Portumna, Tynagh, Woodford

Census Records -1889 Woodford Parish Census

Graveyard Inscriptions - Ahascragh, Aughrim, Beagh, Clontuskert, Craughwell, Kilbeacanty, Kilclooney, Killascobe, Killimordaly, Kilmacduagh, Mountbellew, Moylough, Mullagh and Woodford.

The following Census Substitutes have been added:

Christmas Donations - Beagh and Gort parishes, 1856

Registry of Freeholds 1829, County of Galway.

Slater's and Pigot's Directories, County of Galway, 1824, 1846, 1856, 1870, 1881 and 1894.

Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1850 - Parishes of Abbeygormican, Ahascragh, Augheart, Aughrim, Ballinakill, Ballymacward, Beagh, Boyounagh, Bullaun, Clonbern, Clonfert, Clonrush, Clontuskert, Donamon, Donanaghta, Duniry, Fahy, Fohanagh, Grange, Inishcaltra, Isertkelly, Kilbeacanty, Kilbegnet, Kilchreest, Kilcloony, Kilconnell, Kilconickny, Kilcroan, Kileeneen, Kilgerrill,Kilkerrin, Killaan, Killallaghtan, Killeenadeema, Killeroran, Killian, Killimorbologue, Killimordaly, Killinan, , Killogilleen, Killoscobe, Killosolan, Killora, Kilmacduagh, Kilmalinogue, Kilquain, Kilreekill, Kiltartan, Kilteskil, Kilthomas, Kiltormer, Kiltullagh, Leitrim, Lickerrig, Lickmolassy, Loughrea, Meelick, Moylough, Templetogher.

For a full list of the genealogical sources now online for Galway East GALWAYEAST.ROOTSIRELAND.IE

GET THE NUMBERS YOU NEED FOR YOUR BISHOP - YES! I HAVE 4 GENERATIONS

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HAND OUT FOR SUNDAY - 5-14-2017    Your Bishops need to Send their Stake President a count.  Will you help?

CLICK THIS LINK TO DOWNLOAD

HAND THIS OUT IN MEETINGS THIS SUNDAY!

CAMELBACK STAKE MEETING was May 9, 2017

We really enjoyed getting together and per your request, I have uploaded here a copy as a .pdf
of the slide deck so that you don't have to take laborious notes - the links that we mentioned are all right here!

Including Https://getsatisfaction.com/familysearch/

Get the App  YAMMER
https://www.yammer.com/familysearch/

LINK TO FIND, TAKE AND TEACH - PDF VERSION

Let us know if you would like us to research anything for this blog.

One of you brought up a great idea....

The only ones who would have trouble getting their 4 generations are not converts....

we can get those in a heartbeat...

it's the Adopted Children...

I am thinking we need a page with a lot of National directory and support group links for Adoptees and Adoptive parents.

If you agree, comment below!

Thanks!

Family History Callings

Tips for Family History Consultants

Tip #1 - Start with Stories

https://www.lds.org/media-library/video/2013-02-01-family-history-consultants-tip-1-start-with-stories?category=family-history/family-history-callings&lang=eng

Tip #2
Help them have a Positive Experience
https://www.lds.org/media-library/video/2013-02-02-family-history-consultants-tip-2-help-them-have-a-positive-experience?category=family-history/family-history-callings&lang=eng


Tip #3
Teach People Not Lessons
https://www.lds.org/media-library/video/2013-02-03-family-history-consultants-tip-3-teach-people-not-lessons?category=family-history/family-history-callings&lang=eng



Tip #4
Help them Act in Faith
https://www.lds.org/media-library/video/2013-02-04-family-history-consultants-tip-4-help-them-act-in-faith?category=family-history/family-history-callings&lang=eng


Tip #5
Help them to Progress
https://www.lds.org/media-library/video/2013-02-05-family-history-consultants-tip-5-help-them-to-progress?category=family-history/family-history-callings&lang=eng

Presentation to the African American Genealogical Association of Arizona

Earlier this year, I was asked to research and prepare a presentation to the African American Genealogical Association of Arizona.  I did it but wanted M'Lee Clark to look it over and she found some  sharper pictures of the ones I had found  - so it was a real combined work of Art!  Thank you M'Lee!

Hope you enjoy it!''

Ward Family History Template - When you want answers to progress.... yesterday

There is no real report to help Presidents know how their Wards are doing in Family History, but Each Ward could get that information easily as they are working with their people and calling them and inviting them through the Consultant Planner.

Right now, there is a need for all Bishops to let their Stake President know how many people have their 4 generations done.  This was an easy and fun way for our Ward to keep track.  Originally it was simpler but the brainchild of Kristina Potter.  We have modified it to tally different logistics and each Consultant has access to it.  The Coordinator easily will have all his or her numbers for Ward correlation.

Check it out.  If you like it and it will help your Ward, please feel free to use it and then report back to us if it was helpful.

I had the Google Drive version up here but today I replaced it with the ONEDRIVE VERSION  You can work so much easier with Microsoft products with OneDrive.  The little pull down tabs work perfectly saving you time and energy memorizing various tasks you achieved.





Link to power point on How to use the Template - DIRECTIONS FOR WARD CLERK IN POWER POINT

Here is a PDF of the HOW TO....DIRECTIONS FOR WARD CLERK IN PDF


HERE IS THE EXCEL WORKBOOK  EXCEL WORKBOOK ON HOW TO KEEP TRACK OF WARD FAMILY HISTORY

You can download this and edit it.  if you can't, email me and I'll send it directly to you.

There isn't any sound - This is instruction for you to help your Ward Clerk to format the Address list to fit into the Template easily.   You can start and stop if it goes too fast or just Read the PDF together.

Creating a comfort zone for Family History....

MOUNTAIN SHADOWS FAMILY HISTORY

       Our ward Family History endeavors were not optimal.  In 2010 we would hold classes according to the manual and people would show up for 1 or 2 classes and then say, "Sayonara" because it was very basic and they already felt that ALL of their work had been done.    The Internet connection in our building was dicey at best.  Frequently, on Sundays, as the masses poured in to Sacrament, their phones were on auto pilot to adjust to the Church WIFI.

 So having access on a regular basis was inconsistent and weak.  That had a compounding problem because the access point (that little thing that looks like plastic rabbit ears) was on a beam shelf in the Foyer about 50 feet from our Family History Room.   If the router needed to be reset, one in his or her church dress, had to go out to the foyer, drag a classroom table over, climb up on it and try to reach the router on the ledge.  This got old rather quickly.

We got permission to use the old abandoned clerk's office next to the old scout room and we made it really "homey".  Chris Schweikert did a great job decorating the walls with some pictures and did a beautiful vinyl tree on the whiteboard.   We added some access points so that up to 12-15 people can be in there during the 2nd hour of Sunday School.  Kristina Potter came up with the original idea for the gmail google drive based Consultant Ward Family History Template, which I have added some additional bells and whistles now.  She also put her large scale fan chart printer in the Clerks office so we bought a small one to print out Temple Cards.  I supplied the cutter and card stock and off we were running.
Here are some Pictures and I have included a link to the Template if you think it will help you keep track of how your ward is doing.

We were told to visit people in their homes, but sometimes its hard for them or they feel like they don't want to clean their house for company so it's easier for them to come to this room 2nd hour.  They learn a lot and always leave with names.

Best new way to help people - https://www.familysearch.org/ask/planner
Success within 5 minutes!

We all wore these hats at a Linger Longer so that help was easily found by all

Hung a nice mirror and a clock on the wall

We have a guest portal with some brochures

Interesting Ward Ancestors

Internet Access when in that room

When kids aren't there we use this for brochures and handouts

When Mom wants to do Family History, we keep Crayons and FS Coloring books here

Brother Meyer working the network

Me getting ready for 2nd hour.  Really glad we went to tableclothfactory.com and got some nice burgundy tablecloths to match the padded chairs.  They were only 6.00 each.

10 COMMON SENSE RULES WHEN STARTING TO TRACE YOUR FAMILY TREE

10 COMMON SENSE RULES WHEN STARTING TO TRACE YOUR FAMILY TREE

By Mike Harvey

Rule 1

Don't try to trace your connection down from some historical figure you may
be told you are related to. (Like I did...fool)
Always start with yourself and work backwards. Interview EVERYONE in the
family and see what documents and photos you can obtain or copy. Be careful
with family stories, they tend to be sugar coated and sometimes connect the
wrong event to the wrong person or generation. Interviewing Relatives is
cross-referenced with Lies and Date Discrepancies!
Economies with the truth are rampart.
(Surprise! surprise! Paternal Great Granny and Great Grandpa weren't quite
the paragons of virtue that I was led to believe. And Maternal Great Grandad
wasn't an "English Emigrant". He won an all expenses paid trip to Australia
courtesy of the Old Bailey which he repaid with 14 faithful years in
Government service! Oh, and Maternal Great Granny won one too! Some
favouritism shown with her...she only gave 7 years of faithful Government
service. )

Rule 2

Remember to record all women as who they are when they are born, not by
their married name or known by in later life.

Rule 3

Don't be a chauvinist - your father's line is only a twig, not a tree. The
name you are born with falls either way of the wedding ring. Many babies
born before marriage are recorded under their mother's maiden name. Always
remember your mother's line is more accurate than your father's. Think
"Mother's baby! Father's maybe?" After all, your father's line is only as
good as your mother tells you.

Rule 4

Trace the lines of least resistance, those that are not German if you can't
sprechen zie deutsch, those that are not Irish if you want instant success.
Do the easy ones first, i.e. those who are born where they said they were
born.

Rule 5

Don't look for a marriage date nine months before the birth of the first
child. Many children were born within a few weeks, months or hours after
and before the parents were married or if ever married.

Rule 6

You will need to check the indexes to Births, Deaths and Marriages for the
appropriate State and look up your ancestors' entries. In some States the
reference numbers means cheaper certificates. Death certificates may be
informative in Australia but they are the least correct.
Never rely on a death certificate to be accurate.
For NSW use a transcription agent rather than the NSW BDM's site
for copies of certificates.... They are a helleva lot cheaper and are typed
out for ease of reading. They can also be 'cut and pasted' into your notes
file in your computer program or just put in your family history files.
And if they stuff up the details you have no trouble getting a replacement.

Rule 7

Get organized from day one. You'll be killing a lot of trees with the paper
trail you'll be gathering. Get the correct stationery or computer program
to handle recording the data you will be collecting.

Rule 8

Make sure you take good notes stating what you read, when you read it and
whether it held any information crucial to your search. This will save
duplication of genealogy and keep you organized.

Rule 9 (Mine)

Check to make sure someone hasn't already traced your family tree. You can
search through a series of books called the Genealogical Research Directory
(GRD). These are annual publications showing who is tracing whom in the
family tree. They can be found at most genealogical libraries, LDS Centres
and major council libraries. The Internet also provides a wealth of sites
for free advertisement of names you are researching.
Use Roots web's World Connect but remember that there is a lot of 'fantasy'
there purporting to be 'factual family trees'. Same goes especially for
Ancestry.com
The first rule of genealogy research should be applied to all data from
these sources:
'Accept all data...Believe none until you have checked it for veracity
yourself.'
Lots of ego trippers lurk on those sites.

Occasionally revise your work.

Your mantra should be ...Revision...Revision..Revision.

You will be surprised how often you pick up obvious clues that you missed

the first time around. And then kick yourself for suffering from tunnel 
vision.


Rule 10 (Mine)

Lastly, invest in TV dinners and take away, you won't have the time or
inclination to cook, garden or do anything but dig up your roots. As one
husband bemused, "I used to have a wife until she started genealogy." Or as
my wife was heard to mutter, quite often, "He's disturbing the dead and
irritating the living, again."



Regards
Mike Harvey
Merewether NSW
mj_harvey@dodo.com.au

"Shake any family tree and a few nuts will fall out"

Holding a Family History Event

Did you get an April copy of the NASW Temple and Family History Newsletter?  Click Here!





here are lots of events that can help you further the work by encouraging others to attend and learn how to document the lives of their families.  Here are a few successful ideas we have used.

Have a Linger Longer  or Open House Event with your Ward 

Takes place after the 3 hour block.

TACO OR BAKED POTATO BAR - fun ! just have everyone bring 1 bowl of their favorite topping.  cheese, tomatoes, onions, lettuce, chopped olives, 


Invite everyone to bring their favorite topping to tacos or have a  baked potato bar
We supplied

• 3 crock pots of taco meat (3 family history members donated), 
• 12 dozen tortillas from Smart N Final (3 family history members each brought 4 dozen - about 4.00 each)
• and a cake from Costco (1 family history member donated 16.00)  
• We used the Wards supply of paper plates, cups for water and forks/napkins

Members bring:  pen/paper for notes; laptop - would be very helpful

Stations:  We set the food up at one end of the cultural hall with about 6 round tables and chairs in the middle.  In a U shape at the other end of the Cultural Hall were different stations:

1 - Ward Clerk with his laptop and ability to give people their member numbers.

2 - Table for Family Search to sign up for a family tree





3 - Table for Partner Access - to sign up for $700.00 of free software.

4.  Have a table of scrapbooks to look at for ideas

4 - Table for Research - help finding a name or name of cousins using Puzilla.org

5. Learn how to index properly

6  Learn how to scan pictures and documents (need a color printer here)

7- Table for Consultant Planner - to meet with a consultant and quickly find some opportunities to easily add to your tree.

8. Have a printer for printing names and if possible one for printing their fan charts.  We use HP7610

Overflow:  One long kids table and chairs - we put a Family History Game "Find a Name..." on the middle, along with Family HIstory Coloring books and crayons.  We also put card stock and an embosser that embosses the stock in a puzzle shape.  After they color a picture of their family, they can break it into puzzle pieces and put it into a zip log bag to take home - fun to put together and take apart.

Have an Open House for your Family History Room

 Display this poster in the foyer for several weeks prior to event and put in bulletin every week for 3 weeks prior.

 The new Area Seventy for the Scottsdale Coordinating Council is Elder Raymond Heyman

Raymond S. Heyman, 60, Chandler, Arizona; Partner, Snell & Wilmer; former bishop, high councilor, mission president, and stake president; wife: Diane Heyman, five children.

We look forward to coordinating the Reports from our Stake Presidencies to ensure continuity and success with Temple and Family History.

There are a few sites that have been helpful we wanted you to know about:

Gatherers in the Kingdom

https://www.lds.org/topics/family-history/leader-resources/family-history-training?lang=eng&old=true

Please note that there are three presentations of this slide deck for 3 different meetings.  One for Leaders, one for Temple and Family History Consultants, and one for Ward Members.

Thank you Br. Carruth for letting us know that slide 5 was different in the leader's deck than what has recently been published.   Another new slide shows that Area TFH Consultants advise Stake Presidents and this one does not.  The slide is intended to show the Priesthood channel and the Family history channel. It is not an indicator of where support and help/training comes from.  This was done to emphasize the chain of leadership

Please let us know when you have shared these with your Wards so we can report back on the success of the project.

MEDIA STOP!  Here you go - how to work with Ward Leaders when you are a Temple and Family History consultant.

https://www.lds.org/media-library/video/family-history/family-history-callings?lang=eng 

https://www.lds.org/tfhcallings

https://www.lds.org/fhcallings


MY FAVORITE NEW WEBSITE FOR TRAINING CONSULTANTS
My favorite new website for training consultants is:  The Family History Guide or thefhguide.com

It's pretty amazing.  If you don't have any computer skills, it even teaches you about the computer.
However, let's say you are fair to middlin' in your experience.  Once you experience a login and password, you can log your proficiency in each area of learning and monitor yourself for success.

Why do People do Genealogy?

Here is a link to our other blog - this was a very popular article we did! Enjoy!

HOW TO USE THE FAMILY SEARCH WIKI - by Ted and Karen Meyer

This is a great little short video on how to make the most of your resources.  A lot of people will come to us and say I need to find this person.....that's all.  In order to do this correctly, we need more information so that we can maximize on our resources and minimize on our time.

So - Here are some questions we need the answers to?

This person's name____________________
Where were they born?_______________________
What was the first Census they appeared on?
What Census data have you already searched?
What county/City/State did their Parents live in as Children?
What county/City/State did they Marry in?
Do you have corroborating certificates of his parents - and or/grandparents?
i.e., - birth certificates, death certificates, baptisms, census data, any county records,

In other words, what have you already done so that we don't reinvent the wheel?

What do you know about this person's heritage? Language spoken?
When did they immigrate?
Who was the first person in your family to immigrate to the US?

It may seem like a lot, but in these few sentences is a wealth of linked information and we can guide you to success.

Do you have a Family Search Account?  May we analyze it for you?

Here is a video to the WIKI block of research site - you will love it as an additional help.

Let us help you get past your brick wall!  naswfamilyhistory@gmail.com